Wealth Beyond Riches: Building Prosperity With Purpose, Values, and Impact

Leaving the Corporate World & Reinventing Yourself at Any Age with Kimberly Napier (Ep. 24)

• Abbey Henderson, CFP®

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Have you ever thought about leaving a secure job to chase something more meaningful?

Abbey Henderson, CFP®, CEO Wealth Advisor & Coach, chats with Kimberly Napier about her transformative journey from a corporate career to becoming a thriving executive coach and author. 

Starting with Kimberly's deep roots in the corporate world, armed with a bachelor's and MBA from Babson College and a significant tenure at Nielsen and Forbes Consulting, learn how unexpected life events inspired her to redefine success and fulfillment!

Conversation highlights include:

  • Kimberly’s pivotal corporate exit and how personal tragedy ignited a new path
  • The transformative power of positive psychology in Kimberly’s life and career
  • How trusting intuition can fuel courage and change
  • Balancing personal and professional life as an entrepreneur with purpose 
  • And more!

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About Kimberly Napier:

Kimberly Napier is a certified life & business coach, professional speaker, and intuitive who helps professional women create a life and business they love with meaning and fulfillment. 

Kimberly found her path and calling as a life coach after a tragic wake-up call that propelled her to design a new life for herself and her girls. Prior to coaching, Kimberly led a successful corporate twenty-two-year career in marketing and market research consulting, where she helped shape the “purpose” behind some of the most iconic consumer brands. Now, she leverages her expertise to guide women to unleash their purpose in the world. 

Through her celebrated DARE Process for Change, Kimberly has helped hundreds of women cultivate the clarity and courage to live personally and professionally empowered on their terms. In addition to her coaching practice, Kimberly leads global retreats and online courses and spearheads an Online Mastermind for Women Entrepreneurs. 

She is the author of the book "Know What You Want Next: Break Free of the ‘I Don’t Know’ Trap and Love Your Life Again," and is the co-host of the Podcast, Manifesting Mastery. Kimberly has an MBA from Babson College, is certified in positive psychology, and is a PCC, Professional Certified Coach with The International Coaching Federation.

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Voiceover [00:00:01]:

Welcome to Wealth Beyond Riches with Abbey Henderson, CEO, wealth advisor and coach at Abaris Financial Group. In this podcast, we help generous, fun and passionate professionals overcome their biggest financial concerns while leveling up their lifestyles based on their values. We do this by exploring the five levers, which represent the diverse resources each person possesses throughout their lifetime. These levers encompass finances, health, mindset, relationships, and time, offering a holistic approach to personal development and growth. Join us on this transformative journey as Abbey and her guests draw from years of experience to guide you in achieving your life goals while staying true to your values.


But that's not all. This podcast will equip you not just to build personal wealth, but also to understand how your prosperity can contribute to the betterment of the world around you. By exploring strategies for giving back and making a positive impact, we'll empower you to create a life of significance and leave a lasting legacy of positive change.


Wendy McConnell [00:01:08]:

Hello and welcome to the Wealth Beyond Riches podcast with your host, Abbey Henderson, where we talk about enriching your life in every way. I'm Wendy McConnell.


Hello, Abbey Henderson.


Abbey Henderson [00:01:20]:

Hello, Wendy. How are you?


Wendy McConnell [00:01:22]:

I always say the same thing, so I wanted to mix it up a.


Kimberly Napier [00:01:24]:

Little bit and you did.


Abbey Henderson [00:01:25]:

It's a little surprising. It threw me off a little to be hon, I don't want to throw you off.


Wendy McConnell [00:01:28]:

I just want it to be spontaneous and surprising.


Abbey Henderson [00:01:33]:

I'll be ready for the spontaneity next time.


Wendy McConnell [00:01:36]:

Well, wait, that defeats the whole.


Anyway, how are you?


Abbey Henderson [00:01:41]:

I'm good.


Wendy McConnell [00:01:42]:

Okay, so we do have a guest today, so we're excited about that. Do you want to tell us who we have?


Abbey Henderson [00:01:47]:

Well, absolutely.


And just to sort of lay the groundwork for this episode, one of our most listened to episodes was episode seven, leaving the Corporate World for Personal Growth. And you know, at Aberus, we're all about our clients finding fulfillment and authentic wealth. And so I thought it would be really cool and inspiring to talk to guests who had really started in one place and then pivoted to another to find more alignment. And so our guest today is Kimberly Napier. Kimberly, thank you for joining us.


Kimberly Napier [00:02:30]:

Thank you for having me.


Abbey Henderson [00:02:32]:

Of course. And before, I don't want to steal any of your thunder, so I'm going to give a super short intro of who you are. So Kimberly has a Bachelor's and an MBA from Babson College and spent more than 20 years in the corporate world, most recently, although not that recent, as Director of Marketing and head of Global Insights at Welch's. Fast forward to today and she is an executive coach an international speaker and the author of two books with, I'm sure more to come because she's an amazing writer.


So, Kimberly, again, thank you for joining us. We can't wait to hear your story.


Kimberly Napier [00:03:13]:

Thank you so much.


Abbey Henderson [00:03:14]:

Yeah. So tell us a little bit about how you started in the corporate world, because I'm pretty sure that was pretty much right out of college, right?


Kimberly Napier [00:03:23]:

Yeah, absolutely. I think it was. I graduated May and started in June, and Westport, Connecticut was not an easy place to adjust as a graduate. But I had actually always wanted to be a psychologist, but my parents said you need to make your own money, so you need to go into business. So I did.


And I ended up in market research, which is to me, the closest thing to psychology in the business world. So I worked in insights and analytics, and I started at Nielsen, the TV ratings company, which they're known for. And I was there for about eight years. And I worked out of New York City and Boston. And it was a great job in my 20s to.


To be able to go between Boston, New York, and work on Gillette and L'Oreal and Revlon and Pfizer and all these big brands, Pepsi and so I stayed there for eight years. And then after the dot com phase kind of blew up, I switched jobs, mostly because the salaries were really good, and ended up going into consulting. And I worked at Forbes Consulting for another eight years and I became partner there and again worked with big brands. And my work there was more about helping brands figure out, like, why they exist, like what their purpose was.


Abbey Henderson [00:04:46]:

So you're tiptoeing towards your future.


Kimberly Napier [00:04:49]:

Exactly. So I didn't know it, but I was getting closer. So I went from secondary research to primary research to then really working with brands to kind of figure out, like, why. Why they exist. And so that was really cool.


I'm probably going on and on here, so I don't know if you want to stop me.


Abbey Henderson [00:05:08]:

No, I like the. I think it shows. It's going to show sort of the through lines of what you've done, but then also what a big change it was.


Kimberly Napier [00:05:19]:

Yeah, absolutely.


And, you know, a lot of the work I did in the corporate world at Forbes was around innovation. I worked with Gatorade on their pipeline. I worked with big brands like Coppertone relaunching them after people were afraid to go out in the sun because of skin cancer. So that was a big campaign. And, you know, I really loved my work, to be honest.


But at that point, I had two little girls at home and was completely burned Out. And so I ended up leaving to just be home for. It ended up only being nine months. I thought it was going to be longer and I wanted to be home. And I just decided I would do my own business and consult on my own.


And I started doing that. And then what happened was I was working with one of my long term clients, Welch's, and I loved working with them. They were 10 minutes from my house. I mean, it was the perfect situation. I could literally go to school and volunteer and then come home and then go to something at Welch's.


And it was just so easy. I mean, it was like the perfect situation. And then my client at Welch's was leaving and she asked me if I would consider running the department. And I was like, no, I am so happy I am not doing that. And then I really thought about it and I was like, well, you know, maybe I will.


And I interviewed and I decided that I wanted to go back. So I was there for another five years. And I actually loved my work. I had a great team. I had really a great situation, honestly, and I loved what I did.


And I really got to do some fun, interesting projects there and help reinvent the Welch's brand and bring awareness to the brand as a family farmed company.


And so that was. That was really exciting. And I thought I would retire there, honestly, I thought, this is it. This is where in my 40s, I knew, like, this was it, you know, So I thought, yeah, yeah.


Abbey Henderson [00:07:20]:

So a lot of people are sort of in.


In a position like that and they make a switch because they find there's just something missing. But it sounds like at that point, as far as you sort of knew and felt this, it was. You did find it fulfilling?


Kimberly Napier [00:07:39]:

I did find it fulfilling, yeah. It was really fulfilling.


I loved it. Until it wasn't. And really what happened to me was I had a series of wake up calls in my life that just propelled me in a different direction.


Abbey Henderson [00:07:54]:

Yeah, so. So tell us about those.


Kimberly Napier [00:07:56]:

Yeah. So about 12 years ago, I was 41. I went through a series of losses within months. So In September of 2012, I lost my husband. My husband, suddenly.


I can talk more about that later, but just, you know, trigger warning, but want to be careful with that one. But lost him suddenly to suicide, which was in and of itself just devastating and life changing. And then three weeks later, my dad passed away suddenly. And then Christmas Day, just a couple months later, I found myself in the emergency room with my daughter, who was 10 at the time, who had just gone into anaphylactic shock after eating peanuts. And so that was sort of the moment where I surrendered, if you will, to God and said, okay.


And I. And it wasn't really a. A religious person or anything, but I think you have these moments where you just give up and you say, help me. What? You know, clearly I needed to listen.


And so I. I said, you know, to God, I was bargaining, like, please save my daughter and I will do anything. Just give me a sign and thank. Thank God she was okay. And we went home that night, and I.


I slept with my two girls, 8 and 10, and just felt so grateful. And it sort of shifted the way that I lived. Honestly, I just decided from that day forward, as best as I could, to focus on what I did have instead of what I didn't have. And then about three months later, I found myself in the boardroom. And, you know, this was a job that I had really worked my whole career for.


You know, I was sitting next to the president. I was at the big kids table for the first time, like, really having a voice about our plan for the next year. And all of a sudden, the whole room just closed in on me. And in my head, I felt like I was having my own version of Groundhog Day where I was playing out. Oh, my gosh, I'm going to be sitting here for the next five years, 10 years, 20 years, like, listening to the same thing over and over again.


And I started to panic. And in that moment, everything around me sounded like a Charlie Brown cartoon, you know, with a want, want, want. Like, I couldn't make out the voices. And then I heard a voice inside that said to get out. And it's sort of like the.


I would say it's like the Amityville horror movie, if you ever saw that. And dating myself for sure here, but. And it was like, get out. You know, it was. Okay, wait, where did that come from?


And I looked around the room, and no one else heard it. So I thought I was going crazy. And I was like, okay, just. Just calm down. You're okay.


And then I heard it again, and this time it was just so powerful that I got up and I left. I literally left the boardroom. I went up to my office, and my boss followed me and asked me, are you okay? And I said, no, I need to be home with my girls. And I want to do something more meaningful.


I want to help other women. I want to help women who've been through what I've been through. And I had no idea where this came from. I mean, you can call it divine intervention. My gut, my intuition.


Abbey Henderson [00:11:09]:

Just old fashioned courage.


Kimberly Napier [00:11:10]:

Exactly. I, like, I knew deep down that I should be at home and I didn't really want to be there anymore. It was just hard to be there. I know I needed to be somewhere else.


And also, as much as I loved my work, selling, you know, grape juice and jelly just wasn't cutting it for me anymore. I felt very, very much changed within myself and that I needed to do something more meaningful for me and it wasn't fulfilling anymore. So I left that day without a plan, which I have never done before because I was always a planner and always knew my next step and always an achiever and. But for the first time I had this feeling inside, this knowing that it was going to be okay, even though I didn't know what it looked like. And so that kind of led me on this journey.


And I will say that was my first feeling, was okay, I know I meant to leave, I'm gonna leave. And then my, my mind, my self doubt, my ego, whatever you wanna call it, kicked in and I was like, well, wait, wait, wait a minute, maybe I'll just take a leave of absence, you know. And so, so I technically took a month off to find myself again, which I really had never done in my life, to be honest. I had always just gone to the next achievement, what I thought I should do. And so this space that I had, I ended up, you know, doing like all the things, you know, I did.


Landmark Forum, I went to Canyon Ranch in Arizona. I met with all these healers. I did all this stuff that really wasn't, it was really foreign to me, honestly at the time, you know, I was very much just following the path again that I thought I should. And I really wasn't that open to all these different practices. But I leaned in and I started doing yoga and I started doing mindfulness and I, I found myself reconnecting with my authentic self, like a self I never knew.


And I started to ask myself questions like, what do you really want? And, and I do think that in that space there is some permission to do something different and maybe do something that's completely like off the rails in some ways because you don't, you're not really beholden to anything anymore. And although I still had my girls to take care of, I didn't really have any other responsibilities. I, I really could decide, like, this is what I want to do. And I didn't have, you know, anyone else to answer to, quite honestly, which I know is so hard for other people who are making these changes.


Abbey Henderson [00:13:47]:

When you said in that space that you weren't, you know, you weren't beholden to anything, does that mean with experimenting with all these things that created space? Or is it just sort of the post Welches world where you had kind of just let go of all of the shoulds? Say a little bit more about what you meant when you said that.


Kimberly Napier [00:14:08]:

Yeah, it's kind of everything. Like I felt like I was reinventing myself, like I had space to reinvent who I was.


I was a mom for sure. And that was my first priority, was always my girls. But my career could be anything. You know, I didn't feel stuck. Like, I have to stay here.


I don't have to keep doing the same thing. You know, I think that there's this belief, well, I went to grad school and I got my MBA and I spent 20 years doing this, so I have to stay. Like, what else could I do? Or somehow it's irresponsible to do something else. And I didn't have those thoughts.


They kind of just went away. And while I was at Canyon Ranch, funny enough, everyone was trying to put me in a box. Like they were like, you should be a coach. Like, they planted that seed in me. They said you should work with executives and you should do this and that.


And I was like, I don't know, you know, I don't know if that's what I want. I thought I'd go back and become a psychologist. And I kind of laughed at the idea of a coach because I said, we don't have coaches in Boston. I mean, this was 2012, 2013. It's like, that's a California thing, right?


Like, that's like a Google perk that you get. We don't do that in Boston. Like, we're more rational and logical and serious. And so I didn't even believe in it at first. And then what happened was, as it was leaving Canyon Ranch, I had.


I had decided going forward that I was going to be a very open person. You know, I used to be the person on a plane that would put their headphones on and just read their book and not talk to anyone. And I was like, I'm not going to do that anymore. So I. I decided on the way back I would be open.


So I was talking to the guy next to me, and this is kind of a funny thing I did on the way down. I did talk to someone who was sitting next to me, but I told him way too much about my story. I started telling him that my husband had taken his life, and. And the poor man could not get away from me fast enough. So on the way back, I was like, I'm not going to do that.


But I started talking to the man next to me, and he was a young guy from California, of course, and. And he said, so, you know, what did you learn at Canyon Ranch? I said, well, I think I'm going to become a coach. And he said, oh, everyone needs a coach. And of course, he's from California.


So I just kind of chuckled to myself. And then he handed me this book, and it was Flourish by Martin Seligman. He said, you need to read this book. So I was like, okay. So I had the book, and it sat on my bedside table for two weeks.


And the day before, I was supposed to go back to work and tell them I was officially not coming back. I was going to meet with my boss and the president. I picked up the book, and within just two pages, I was like, this is what I meant to do for the rest of my life. So the book was all about positive psychology and. Which is, you know, the science of.


Of human flourishing, resilience, thriving. And it really looks at what is right with you instead of what is wrong with you, which is what pathology psychology looks at and what we're so familiar with. And I knew in an instant that this was what I had to study. So I got online and I looked to see if there were any courses or certifications or anything, and there was one. It was at Kripalo.


And it started on Monday. This was Friday. Of course, you can't make this stuff up, right? And it was taught by a Harvard professor, Tal Ben Shahar. He had left Harvard to go teach this to the masses.


And so, you know, my. My brain was like, okay, that's legit. I can get behind that. And I called up and I got the last spot. So I knew that I was meant to be there.


And it all worked out. My sister came and watched my girls, and she said, you know, I've never heard you so excited about anything before. I can tell you're meant to be there. I got there and there were hundreds of people, hundreds of people from all over the world, like Saudi Arabia, Israel, everywhere you can think of. I was blown away.


And they were all talking about how they've been waiting for this course for a year. It was the second time it been offered and had this waiting list, list, and I somehow just snuck in. And so I knew in that moment that there was a Bigger plan that was happening and that this is why I was here, you know, was there for a reason. And it was a year long program that really changed my life and the work that I do in the world. And it changed first me and my girl's world.


I, I brought all the skills home that I was learning and it really helped us to start loving life again. I mean, it brought joy back into our home. We started to thrive. And I knew I had to share this with other people. So that's how I first got into coaching.


It was really through positive psychology. And I then created this program to help people create positive change in their life, which I call Dare Change. And that was the, the beginning. And then through that, it led to other synchronicities and I found myself going into, you know, becoming a coach. I actually talked to my mentor and she said, you should become a coach.


And I said, everyone's telling me that, but shouldn't I go back and get my PhD? And she said, no.


Abbey Henderson [00:19:12]:

My PhD?


Kimberly Napier [00:19:14]:

Yeah. I said, I, I'm not really qualified to do anything unless I have a PhD, right?


She said, no. She says, she said, she said, how soon do you want to help people? And I said, oh, right away. She says, okay, just start doing it. And I was like, okay.


So that really gave me permission because I think also a lot of people get stuck behind. Well, I don't have the qualifications to do that. You know, I would have to go back to school or I'd have to get the letters or whatever it is. And that holds us back from making change. So I decided to trust that and I got certified as a coach.


And then I met my, my new husband, my now husband, who was also, he was actually an instructor in my coaching program. And that just really shifted my whole world. So within a matter of, gosh, 18 months, my whole life was different. I, I found work that I loved. I found a new love.


And my whole world opened up beyond what I ever could have imagined. So I think I'm living proof that you can reinvent yourself at any age and in life, you know, can be better than, than you think, than even you could dream, even if you're in the worst of circumstances.


Abbey Henderson [00:20:33]:

So tell me a little bit, because if, if assuming you haven't completely gotten rid of the overachieving, type A personality traits with I, as, as you know, I do share with you how I have to imagine at some point there might have been a little bit of a pull to say, all right, I'm gonna go into a big organization and do the coaching. But you're an entrepreneur.


Kimberly Napier [00:21:01]:

Yeah.


Abbey Henderson [00:21:01]:

Sort of took the big jump to do your own thing solo for, for quite a while.


Kimberly Napier [00:21:07]:

But I'll tell you, I did do that though too, so. Because everyone around me told me I should. So what happened? And this is another thing, right?


Like we listen to everyone around us who lovingly give us advice filled with their own fears. But people around me were saying, well, how are you gonna do that yourself? You should, you should go work with an organization. So I ended up doing that. In the very beginning, I worked with a company and I actually got certified in conscious business too because I had to have another check mark.


And so I did work with an organization and I really enjoyed a lot of the people. But I found myself, I remember I was at a very large insurance company in California leading a week long workshop and half the people I could tell did not want to be there. And that's how I knew it wasn't for me. I was like, okay, I'm trying to bring coaching to these high potential leaders who don't want it and this is not fulfilling for me. And so that was when I realized this is not what I want to do.


I felt like I was back in the corporate world and really kind of stuck again. And so I actually had to make a very hard decision. It was hard because I had a lot of people who had believed in me and given me this opportunity and I had to say no to it with gratitude, but say, this just does not fit what I want right now without a plan again. And actually when I did that, I, I, I, I with gratitude said thank you so much for this opportunity. And I share the language because I know it's hard sometimes to find the language.


I said thank you for this opportunity. I'm really grateful and this is not working for me right now. For what I want in this phase of my life, what I really want is to help people build a bridge from corporate to find their calling. And this is unfortunately just not aligned with me right now. And they were fine.


I mean, I was worried about it more than they were. They were like, great, I'm so happy for you. That sounds fantastic. And I did that after really agonizing about it for a month. And then, and I gave up work.


I had work lined up with Microsoft and Google. I mean it was, it looked really good on paper, really good on paper. And, but it didn't feel good on the inside. I felt sick whenever I thought about, I thought sick. Leaving my girls, going to California and the West Coast.


I didn't want to do that, so I said no. And the next day I got my first client in my high-end program which is a year-long program, five-figure program. And I knew again that this was the right move. So when I trusted myself on my path, things went my way and I could feel it in my body. I was like, this is right for me.


This is opening doors, this is the right direction. But when I didn't listen, I could, I could also feel that. And it was this dread and ick and it felt like a chore, you know, And I think we stay in things like that right out of fear, obligation, responsibility for too long and we don't know that this other side exists. Right.


Abbey Henderson [00:24:27]:

Well, I'm grateful you found it because I think you and I probably started working together shortly, shortly thereafter.


And just so listeners know, Kimberly is absolutely my inspiration and was my impetus to start my coaching career. So, so, but so tell us all of the wonderful things that you are doing now.


Kimberly Napier [00:24:50]:

So I've been coaching now for over 10 years and I've helped hundreds of women and men. I do work with men too. You know, I primarily focus on women, but I work with a lot of men and I've written a couple of books.


I have, my first book is Know what yout Want Next, which is based off of my Dare Change transformation process. And that's also a program I have online for people so they can do it on their own. Um, my second book is called Elevated which is really about how to live more consciously and take your life to the next level from really an authentic place rather than an achievement driven place. And I'm working on my third book right now which hopefully will come out next year, which is called Uninhibited. And it's about letting go of the fear of judgment and really living as your authentic self and reclaiming your worth, which is what I think we all are trying to do.


And I'm certainly a work in progress still there. And the other thing that I, that I'm really passionate about is leading retreats for women. And I have a retreat that I do every year in Sedona. I have one coming up in Costa Rica in March, if I can do a little plug for that one.


Abbey Henderson [00:26:07]:

So when that one rolls around, people should look again.


People should look for it.


Kimberly Napier [00:26:11]:

Yeah, that's coming up in March and that's going to be amazing. I'm leading that with, with a friend and colleague from my positive psychology days who's also a yoga instructor and she Owns a yoga studio in Nashville. So that's going to be a really fun one. And, you know, really, I just.


I love my work. I. I love just helping people find themselves again and reconnect with who they are. My other work is my four children. I have two of my own, and then two from marriage.


And so we're launching for, you know, humans into the world. And that is. That's a lot of work, but they're doing good. I'm really proud of them. Yeah.


And I do use my work with them, for sure.


Abbey Henderson [00:26:56]:

So what advice do you have for our listeners who might be feeling called to do something else?


Kimberly Napier [00:27:02]:

I think the most important thing is to really listen to yourself, because I. I do believe that we all know what we want, but we block it, we snooze it out. We, you know, we stay on autopilot, and we just don't allow ourselves to listen.


So make time for that. And, you know, it doesn't have to be meditation, because I know for some people that sounds like such a big deal, but just get quiet with yourself and let yourself hear what you need and what you want and start to make small changes towards that, because that will lead to the courage for the bigger changes. But at least be honest with yourself. Know that, okay, I'm in this job. I really don't want to be here.


This is not what I want. I really want to do that. Like, to me, that's the first start. And then, you know, you may not have a plan on how to get there, but at least consciously, you're. You're aware of what you want and what you don't want and start there.


But you got to make space and time to connect with yourself, because so often we just don't do that. You know, we just keep going, and we're on that hamster wheel, and we. We don't allow ourselves to have that honest conversation with ourselves. So to me, that's the first place to go. And from there, you're gonna.


You're gonna learn a lot, and then you're gonna start to have the courage to make little steps. And you might need a coach. You might need a therapist. You, you know, look for people who are doing what you're doing and. And ask them how they got there.


Look for mentors, look for help. Ask for help. That's.


Abbey Henderson [00:28:32]:

That's one of the hard things for me to actually ask for the help.


Kimberly Napier [00:28:35]:

Yeah.


You know, and if you don't, the universe will probably put you in a situation where you have to.


That is my story. I'm intimately aware of that one. So, yeah, just like, you know, let yourself receive the help, let yourself receive the insights. Um, and, you know, once you start paying attention, the path will start to reveal itself and you'll start to feel the freedom.


Abbey Henderson [00:29:04]:

Oh, I love that.


So we will link to your books in our show notes. Where else can people find more information about you?


Kimberly Napier [00:29:14]:

Well, I'm on LinkedIn and you can find me at kimberlynapier.com and I have all my information there. And my books are on Amazon and they're also on Audible too. So if you like to listen more than read, those are available, too.


Perfect.


Abbey Henderson [00:29:30]:

Well, thank you for joining us again.


Kimberly Napier [00:29:33]:

Thank you so much, Abbey. It's so great to be with you.


Wendy McConnell [00:29:36]:

Abbey, how can people get in touch with you?


Abbey Henderson [00:29:39]:

So people can find me all the ways. So email Abbey@abaristfinancialgroup.com the website www.abaristfinancialgroup.com, linkedIn, Facebook, Instagram, and I would love to hear from people.


Wendy McConnell [00:29:53]:

All right, well, thank you both and thank you for listening today. Please, like, follow and share this podcast with your friends. Until next time.


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